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Author: | Australian [ Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:41 pm ] |
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Rien1984 wrote: - cala mago: very small cove, partly gay, attracts beautiful girls for Some reason It might be for The Gram? |
Author: | PDC [ Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:12 am ] |
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Es Trenc is great for CFNM but the textiles are taking over. Just over a year ago nudists could take advantage of a sun lounger, but not anymore. They have limited their number so now sun loungers can only be found in the textiles areas. You could take one but it would need a considerable amount of courage to be the only one naked amongst so many textiles. I would love to see nudists take sun loungers and reclaim this beach for nudists, it is now too segregated.. On the opposite end of the spectrum Sa Rapita, it's neighbouring beach, has seen nudists creep along there, mixing with the textiles, so that's a positive. In the past they limited themselves to just a small section. And if you go on a Sunday you'll be able to mingle naked with hundreds of stunning bikini clad Spanish girls, which is quite an intense CFNM experience.. |
Author: | beachfun [ Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:18 pm ] |
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Sa Rapita I find it very interesting, in Es Trenc it may be interesting to be near where the textile zone begins. thanks for the ideas |
Author: | Australian [ Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:23 pm ] |
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PDC wrote: Es Trenc is great for CFNM but the textiles are taking over. Just over a year ago nudists could take advantage of a sun lounger, but not anymore. They have limited their number so now sun loungers can only be found in the textiles areas. You could take one but it would need a considerable amount of courage to be the only one naked amongst so many textiles. I would love to see nudists take sun loungers and reclaim this beach for nudists, it is now too segregated.. This is a pattern that seems to be developing in several islands and other hotspots in Europe. My experience is mostly in Spain and Croatia, less so in France and Germany, and I don't know what's happening in the East. It's interesting to compare it with reports on here about more females/younger couples going nude at places like Black's Beach. There's lots of possible explanations for it in Europe - I mostly blame cheap airfares and Instagram! The classic German nudists have largely abandoned islands like Formentera, or at least they wait until mid-September or October once the demographics (and prices) change. Guys into beach CFNM might think this all sounds great (more textiles, less nudists) but I think wherever you go you want some core foundation/base of nudists around you before you partake. Or a least a few! I guess it all depends on a range of factors - for example how familiar or comfortable you feel at a particular destination. Tough for a first-time visitor! This is a rambling post, apologies. But it's something I am a bit sad about too. |
Author: | Brad [ Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:51 pm ] |
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Australian wrote: PDC wrote: Es Trenc is great for CFNM but the textiles are taking over. Just over a year ago nudists could take advantage of a sun lounger, but not anymore. They have limited their number so now sun loungers can only be found in the textiles areas. You could take one but it would need a considerable amount of courage to be the only one naked amongst so many textiles. I would love to see nudists take sun loungers and reclaim this beach for nudists, it is now too segregated.. This is a pattern that seems to be developing in several islands and other hotspots in Europe. My experience is mostly in Spain and Croatia, less so in France and Germany, and I don't know what's happening in the East. It's interesting to compare it with reports on here about more females/younger couples going nude at places like Black's Beach. There's lots of possible explanations for it in Europe - I mostly blame cheap airfares and Instagram! The classic German nudists have largely abandoned islands like Formentera, or at least they wait until mid-September or October once the demographics (and prices) change. Guys into beach CFNM might think this all sounds great (more textiles, less nudists) but I think wherever you go you want some core foundation/base of nudists around you before you partake. Or a least a few! I guess it all depends on a range of factors - for example how familiar or comfortable you feel at a particular destination. Tough for a first-time visitor! This is a rambling post, apologies. But it's something I am a bit sad about too. I agree that if there are not enough other nude people, going nude, even if legally permissible, is very awkward and not erotic for me. As you say, having a "core" group of other nudists which are in large enough numbers establishes it is customary and acceptable to be nude. If everyone present understands that nudity is acceptable at a particular beach, it makes one that goes nude feel accepted and it being someone "normal", even if it is an erotic sensations. But being a lone nude guy (or one of say, 2 or 3) in a larger crowd is not exciting as you feel everyone is looking at you as though you're a weird pervert doing something socially unacceptable. |
Author: | doug444 [ Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:33 pm ] |
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Brad wrote: I agree that if there are not enough other nude people, going nude, even if legally permissible, is very awkward and not erotic for me. As you say, having a "core" group of other nudists which are in large enough numbers establishes it is customary and acceptable to be nude. If everyone present understands that nudity is acceptable at a particular beach, it makes one that goes nude feel accepted and it being someone "normal", even if it is an erotic sensations. But being a lone nude guy (or one of say, 2 or 3) in a larger crowd is not exciting as you feel everyone is looking at you as though you're a weird pervert doing something socially unacceptable. That reminds me of something that happened to me over 30 years ago. I was on a legal clothing optional beach. Many c/o beaches in Australia are unofficial, but being nude here was perfectly legal and I was at no risk of arrest or other legal penalties. I was there with a girlfriend who got nude for at least part of the time. There was a good mixed crowd of mainly nude people of both genders and a few clothed people, remember this was over 30 years ago. As I often do, I went for a walk along the beach to the end of the nude zone and back, my girlfriend remained with our towels sunbaking. We were set up near the walkway to the car park as most people do and my walk to the end of the beach was about two kilometers (roughly a mile and a half return trip for the non-metrics). I was in no hurry and probably took half an hour. There were very few people along the beach where I walked. As I returned to the more populated area near where we were set up I began to notice that while I was gone for some reason things had changed. Everyone was clothed. I was the only naked person on the beach and I was still 100 metres from my clothes. People were staring at me, even though they must have known the beach was c/o. The most nerve-wracking thing was wondering WHY all the other naked people had suddenly decided to leave and where all these clothed people had come from. Was I missing something here? Anyway, I walked the 100 metres back to our spot head held high, at a nice steady relaxed pace but I have NEVER been so thoroughly stared at in all my life. Nobody said anything to me and I did not hear anyone say anything about me to the people they were with. They just all stared in silence. I have never had that dream people talk about of finding themselves at school or wherever naked but that's probably how I felt at the time. My girlfriend was fully dressed when I got back to our towels. She had no idea what happened either, but she noticed that the beach was transforming from mostly nude to mostly clothed while I was gone, and she had gotten dressed because of it. I got dressed too and we left. I had never seen a beach change in character like that before or since. Just one of those inexplicable things in life, I guess, but I survived it. |
Author: | DaveTheRave [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:25 am ] |
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doug444 wrote: That reminds me of something that happened to me over 30 years ago................... My girlfriend was fully dressed when I got back to our towels. She had no idea what happened either, but she noticed that the beach was transforming from mostly nude to mostly clothed while I was gone, and she had gotten dressed because of it. I got dressed too and we left. I had never seen a beach change in character like that before or since. Just one of those inexplicable things in life, I guess, but I survived it. AUSTRALIANS! Topsy-turvy bunch! lol DTR |
Author: | beachfun [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:04 pm ] |
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Australian wrote: PDC wrote: Es Trenc is great for CFNM but the textiles are taking over. Just over a year ago nudists could take advantage of a sun lounger, but not anymore. They have limited their number so now sun loungers can only be found in the textiles areas. You could take one but it would need a considerable amount of courage to be the only one naked amongst so many textiles. I would love to see nudists take sun loungers and reclaim this beach for nudists, it is now too segregated.. This is a pattern that seems to be developing in several islands and other hotspots in Europe. My experience is mostly in Spain and Croatia, less so in France and Germany, and I don't know what's happening in the East. It's interesting to compare it with reports on here about more females/younger couples going nude at places like Black's Beach. There's lots of possible explanations for it in Europe - I mostly blame cheap airfares and Instagram! The classic German nudists have largely abandoned islands like Formentera, or at least they wait until mid-September or October once the demographics (and prices) change. Guys into beach CFNM might think this all sounds great (more textiles, less nudists) but I think wherever you go you want some core foundation/base of nudists around you before you partake. Or a least a few! I guess it all depends on a range of factors - for example how familiar or comfortable you feel at a particular destination. Tough for a first-time visitor! This is a rambling post, apologies. But it's something I am a bit sad about too. A "cala" is a normally natural small beach without showers or bar |
Author: | Willy [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:45 pm ] |
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If you look at Vera Playa what happened is somebody figured out the nude parts of town sold for less money. That led to developers buying them and trying to change them to textile. Or Barcelona allegedly the law change came about because of lobbying from the hotel and the club. Many of the historic naturist/nude beaches are in what used to be remote or in other ways less desirable locations. In some cases those areas are now no longer undesirable. There is also a change in the orgin of some tourists. One place I go to historically was almost 100% German. It was so German the shops stocked German labeled products and not Spanish. A few years back it saw an influx of Russians and they weren't so accustommed to things. On the point about beaches changing. One morning we went to La Playa Del Gato natural park in Spain. The beach is legally nude. Not C/O. When we arrived I think three other couples all nude in the seculded end. No one else. We joined them there. By the time we left around lunch we were the only nudes left on the whole beach. It must have been a thousand people. Plus a TV crew |
Author: | Brad [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:10 am ] |
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Willy wrote: If you look at Vera Playa what happened is somebody figured out the nude parts of town sold for less money. That led to developers buying them and trying to change them to textile. Or Barcelona allegedly the law change came about because of lobbying from the hotel and the club. Many of the historic naturist/nude beaches are in what used to be remote or in other ways less desirable locations. In some cases those areas are now no longer undesirable. There is also a change in the orgin of some tourists. One place I go to historically was almost 100% German. It was so German the shops stocked German labeled products and not Spanish. A few years back it saw an influx of Russians and they weren't so accustommed to things. On the point about beaches changing. One morning we went to La Playa Del Gato natural park in Spain. The beach is legally nude. Not C/O. When we arrived I think three other couples all nude in the seculded end. No one else. We joined them there. By the time we left around lunch we were the only nudes left on the whole beach. It must have been a thousand people. Plus a TV crew Good assessment and makes a lot of sense. What do you mean by "The beach is legally nude. Not C/O" - are you implying that nudity is compulsory? If not, and if nudity is simply legally allowed, that would be C/O. In the U.S., full public nudity allowed by law is very rare. I can only think of a few instances, which includes scheduled events in San Francisco, Hippy Hollow in Austin, and Haulover in Florida, all of which have specific ordinances indicating full nudity is legal. However, all of those are also C/O. Nudity at most public beaches (i.e. Blacks in San Diego) is not officially legal and can be challenged at any time; however, by custom they tend to be C/O. |
Author: | doug444 [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:23 pm ] |
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Brad wrote: In the U.S., full public nudity allowed by law is very rare. I can only think of a few instances, which includes scheduled events in San Francisco, Hippy Hollow in Austin, and Haulover in Florida, all of which have specific ordinances indicating full nudity is legal. However, all of those are also C/O. Nudity at most public beaches (i.e. Blacks in San Diego) is not officially legal and can be challenged at any time; however, by custom they tend to be C/O. OK, I was of the impression that most of the famous beaches in the US were actually legal. I've learned something today. In Australia we have six states and two territories. There are legal clothing optional beaches in the two territories and five of he six states. The only state without is Queensland, which, ironically is the state famous for its sunshine and beaches Queensland does have a lot of unofficial c/o beaches to make up for the lack of the good sense to provide legal ones. All the other states and territories have their unofficial beaches as well. Our best c/o beach is an unofficial one in Queensland - Alexandria Bay. It is usable all year around due to the warm northern winters. Tourists go there in their thousands to escape the cold in the southern states in our winter. Even though it is not legal, the police patrol the beach and keep the perverts under control. I have never heard of the police bothering anyone for simply being naked. I attended a nude beach carnival at Alexandria Bay many years ago now. I was about five years out of high school and I ran into a girl I went to school with who was standing on the beach in her Police uniform monitoring the event. Happy days. |
Author: | bchcpl2445 [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:55 pm ] |
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Rien1984 wrote: For me the absolute highlight of Spain is Formentera, an island next to the famous island of Ibiza. Why is Formentera so much better you might ask? Well mainly given the beauty of the beaches. Some people call it the European Caribbean and they are perfectly right to do so. The beaches are white and the sea is perfectly clear. Ok, prices are relatively high, but it's absolutely worth it. I'm looking forward already for my next visit (most likely in June). I have to agree. Playa de Migjorn is on the quieter side of the beach. The Riu Hotel makes it even easier as its "half board". Breakfast at the hotel (RIU) walk along miles of the naturist beach (Migjorn) and pick any number of beachside restaurants for lunch (Vogamari, Es Codol Foradat, La Fragata, Es Cupina), and dinner back at the hotel after dark. |
Author: | Australian [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:49 pm ] |
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beachfun wrote: If it is true, it is not pleasant to be the only nude of the beach. Maybe one day I will go to the "calas" that are in the south of the island, I have heard that in many the nudity is quite accepted. A "cala" is a normally natural small beach without showers or bar This is another little thing that annoys me - that nudists are being pushed further out, to even more remote locations, where parking and access is more difficult, and there are no facilities whatsoever. In countries like the USA and Australia we might be used to it, but Spain......come on!! bchcpl2445 wrote: I have to agree. Playa de Migjorn is on the quieter side of the beach. The Riu Hotel makes it even easier as its "half board". Breakfast at the hotel (RIU) walk along miles of the naturist beach (Migjorn) and pick any number of beachside restaurants for lunch (Vogamari, Es Codol Foradat, La Fragata, Es Cupina), and dinner back at the hotel after dark. Even some of the beaches on the Migjorn side of the island are losing their nudist flavour. The exception is probably the beach directly in front of Voga Mari, which is still solidly nudist (except in late July - August I'd guess). I felt like one I was one of the "perverts" mentioned by Brad earlier when I was virtually the only person nude on the Es Arenals beach in front of the Riu Hotel, and this was much later in the season too! |
Author: | Willy [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:47 pm ] |
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Brad wrote: Good assessment and makes a lot of sense. What do you mean by "The beach is legally nude. Not C/O" - are you implying that nudity is compulsory? If not, and if nudity is simply legally allowed, that would be C/O. There are beaches/areas that nudity is required. Normally nobody enforces it but it's there to deal with the voyuers and other trouble makers. The naturist section of Vera Playa is legally nude. You won't get fined if you aren't but you can walk from the front of your apartment door to the beach and back without anybody batting an eye. |
Author: | Tyson [ Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:14 pm ] |
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Quote: Australian wrote: Excellent information Tyson, you might want to copy this across to the "Spain" thread too: viewtopic.php?f=35&t=1096 Relocated from "CFNM at Public Clothing-Optional Beaches" in "Real Life, Unstaged CFNM Photos & Videos" (thanks Australian) Ibiza beaches Ibiza is another of the Balearic Islands, in the Mediterranean Sea. It was one of the first islands to be known as a party/clubbing destination (since about the 1970s). It was *the* island holiday for british tourists in the 90s. Partying is concentrated in Ibiza town in the south of the island, and Sant Antoni de Portmany on the West of the island. Think alcohol, drugs, loud electronic music, and tourists. Ibiza has become more expensive in the past decade or so, and seems to be attracting more upmarket tourists (probably the 30 somethings who used to go in their 20s). But there are still lots of young people misbehaving. I'm not a huge fan of Ibiza - if you're not a big party-goer, the other Balearic Islands might be preferable for peace and quiet. I only go there because Formentera (see earlier in this thread) doesn't have an airport, so any trips to Formentera start with a flight to Ibiza. Before the tourist explosion, Ibizans spoke Eivissenc which is a Catalan dialect. Now there is a lot more Castillian spoken, which can be confusing as there are often Catalan and Castillian names for each place. Hopefully you'll be able to work it out as they're usually just spelling variations (e.g. "Platja de ses salines" versus "Playa las salinas"). There are lots of small isolated beaches where discrete nudist is popular on the north and eastern sides of the island that are less densely populated. I've been to three beaches near the main cities that are worth commenting on. Ibiza town: The two main clothing-optional beaches near Ibiza town are on opposite sides of the same peninsula and walking distance from each other. Both are about 20 minutes south west of Ibiza town (Vila d'Eivissa), and there is a regular public bus. From the bus stop you can walk a few minutes either west or east to find beaches where nudity is possible. Platja es cavallet On the east side of the peninsula (walk left from the bus stop) is Platja es cavallet which is the main nudist beach. It is a long sandy beach with postcard views back toward Vila (es cavallet is Catalan for an artists easel). There is an upmarket bar/restaurant (el chiringuito) at the north end (entrance) of es cavallet that is clothed, then the rest of the beach is very nude and very gay. At the far south end of es cavallet is a beach bar called "Chiringay" which sells overpriced food and drink and pumps out loud electronic dance music. Chiringay also has showers, toilets, sun loungers and umbrellas. There are some cfnm opportunities as clothed women will occasionally take a stroll from El Chiringuito to enjoy watching the wildlife. The beach is probably 50% nude and 80% men. More cfnm opportunities the closer you dare go to the bar at the north end (there is no official start or end to the nude section), and the beach becomes gayer and more male the further south you go. Platja de ses salines On the other side of the peninsula (walk right from the bus stop) is Platja de ses salines. Depending on which path you take you'll either arrive on the beach at Malibu or Jockey club. Both are bars/restaurants. In summer, Salines is a young, very clothed beach. Lots of tourists trying to recover from the night of clubbing before, and touts selling everything you could imagine. Just to the south of Jockey club the beach tends to be very busy and crowded, then further south past the lifeguard station there is a quiet area. There are usually a few nudists keeping to themselves in this quiet patch (this is where the famous cfnm videos by user name "Okkie" are filmed). Further south the beach gets clothed and very busy again and finishes at La Trinxa beach club. Beyond this is a rocky area with small sandy coves that you have to climb down to - these tend to alternate between nude and clothed depending on the day. If you keep walking further there is a nature area, some scenic views, and if you follow the coast for long enough you end up back at es cavallet right in front of Chiringay. When I've been at Platja de ses salines, the nudists in (I'll just call it the Okkie section) have all been lying on their towels up on the soft sand, keeping to themselves. I haven't seen a naked person swimming, standing at the waters edge, or walking. I wasn't sure whether we were supposed to be there so I didn't want to be the one to push it. This makes it a bit boring - there's only so long I can sit still before I want to go and do something. Nonetheless, it feels very exposed and public, which will appeal to some members of this forum. It is a very small section that seems to be nudist by convention (there weren't any signs) that is between two very busy and very clothed sections. There is a constant stream of foot traffic along the beach. Almost everyone who goes to La Trixa or the coves to the south will walk past the Okkie section. These are mostly tourists, including from countries where nudity is very uncommon. If they are walking from south to north (left to right in Okkie's videos) this means they're probably coming back from La Trixa and may well be drunk. These combine for some disinhibited behaviour and extra attention that traditional nudists likely find offensive and members of this forum would probably enjoy. For some reason lots of English tourists assume that no one else speaks English, and I overheard people talking amongst themselves about the nudists. In Okkie's videos you will see young (usually) women parading past holding large cutout letters - these are to advertise each of the dance clubs that are popular in Ibiza, and clubgoers seems to be the main demographic for the beach. Sant Antoni de Portmany Sant Antoni de Portmany is the second biggest city on the island. It also has its share of mega-clubs. I got the impression that while Ibiza town gets a mix of europeans, Sant Antoni seems to be more heavily british. The main beaches near the town itself are all clothed as far as I could tell. About 10 minutes drive further north around the coast is a cfnm option called Punta galera. Punta galera There are at least two areas known as Punta galera on the island of Ibiza. One near Sant Antoni, and the other near Portnatx at the northern most tip of the island. This is a review of the one near Sant Antoni - the other is not a nudist beach. To get there, find the road PM812 heading north of Sant Antoni, then take an exit left marked Sa Talaia. Follow this down to the ocean (there are paths to Punta Galera from three different roads - they're each about as hard as each other). Some of the turnoffs don't have names or signs, so don't be surprised if you have to stop and ask for directions. If someone has better directions please post them below. From the carpark is a 15 minute steep path down to the water. Like many spanish beaches, the nude section varies by the day - you may need to explore either to the west or east once you get to the shoreline. My favourite area is around to the east until you reach a stall selling mojitos and a cliff that the daring will jump off into the ocean. Depending on where you want to go, you might need to do some fairly adventurous climbing, and a reasonable level of fitness and good shoes are recommended. Punta galera isn't really a beach. There's one small sandy area, but mostly its a collection of flat rocks on which to sunbathe. A padded beach mat will be more comfortable than a towel. There isn't a lot of space, and often you need to climb over or past other sunbathers to get where you are going. This makes for a potentially intense cfnm experience as you either try to shimmy past clothed sunbathers at a narrow section of the path, or else have clothed tourists step almost directly over you to get past you. There always seemed to be a dense concentration of bikini-clad females clustered around the few places it was easiest to get into and out of the water. Its mostly clothed, mostly young, mostly british, but with enough very-tanned german nudists so that you won't feel out of place getting naked. The water is crystal clear, the sunsets over the cliffs are spectacular, and the mojitos are good. There are reportedly other good nudist and mixed options in Es racó d'en Xic and Playa de Aigues Blanques, but I haven't been. |
Author: | Australian [ Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:01 pm ] |
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Thanks DTR, sounds pretty good, even if Cadiz is a little off the radar for most of us. (Seville is a great destination though and not too far away). When you add your photos, could you also advise how far out of the town of Cadiz these beaches are? You mention a car/carpark, so I'm assuming it is driving distance. That's bit of a deal-breaker for someone like me who prefers footpower, local transport, or a scooter at most. |
Author: | DaveTheRave [ Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:34 am ] |
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DaveTheRave wrote: CADIZ Area. Spain. I hope to have one more go at this beach before I leave! DTR Went setup, put away and went home! Stupid wind was at 25mph and when I looked going up to 45mph and the cove was causing mini tornados of sand. Wondered why parking so easy today. Never thought to look at the wind when 34c (94f) is touted. Fucking wasted morning. Not many on the beach and those there were hidden by wind breakers and parasols all tied down. Could have made a good stretch of Trumps wall with them! DTR |
Author: | DaveTheRave [ Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:39 am ] |
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Above I have added pics and updated information. DTR |
Author: | Australian [ Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:05 pm ] |
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DaveTheRave wrote: Above I have added pics and updated information. DTR Thanks for the photos. I like the look of the third beach, reminds me of the Balearic environment. |
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