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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:46 pm 
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I did not realize this topic had such a history. I thought my experiences at the YMCA growing up were unique, but apparently not. At the time, it was not a topic that was commonly discussed due to the conservative environment I was raised under.


Tera I for one would love to hear more about your experiences and impressions at the time. Were you able to see all the boys swim? How many times did you go to pick your brother up?


I can share my story. Should I respond here or start a new thread?


Tera -

We try our hardest to keep posts that are of the same theme within the topic threads already dedicated to those themes. Your stories are of value to this board, so I'd post them in the Real Life Experiences forum with other similar accounts here:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2707&hilit=YMCA

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Brad wrote:
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Tera wrote:
I did not realize this topic had such a history. I thought my experiences at the YMCA growing up were unique, but apparently not. At the time, it was not a topic that was commonly discussed due to the conservative environment I was raised under.


Tera I for one would love to hear more about your experiences and impressions at the time. Were you able to see all the boys swim? How many times did you go to pick your brother up?


I can share my story. Should I respond here or start a new thread?


Tera -

We try our hardest to keep posts that are of the same theme within the topic threads already dedicated to those themes. Your stories are of value to this board, so I'd post them in the Real Life Experiences forum with other similar accounts here:

http://cfnmvillage.com/forum/viewtopic. ... hilit=YMCA






Thank you, Brad.

I have submitted my post. I look forward to exploring this board further and contributing what I can.


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Hi Brad and everyone else,

Thank you for setting up and maintaining these forums - the history page was fascinating actually, interesting to hear the origins from those who were involved!

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Hi Brad and everyone else,

Thank you for setting up and maintaining these forums - the history page was fascinating actually, interesting to hear the origins from those who were involved!

LKG


Very gracious of you, thank you!

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Hello everyone!

Nice to be accepted here and nice to read about this acronym I always wondered when / by who / how was created.
This is just one point in Internet history and is very spread :) between the users of internet.
Brad, you had a good idea!

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LE> I stated remembering when I heard for the first time about CFNM and I realized it was after 1995, most probably in the autumn of 1996, the time of very slow dial-up connexion. That time of my life I had a lot of CFNM experiences [i](I didn't know what that acronym was for... but later on is a different story!)[/i] and the internet was full of sex by very agressive pop-up windows.


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qola wrote:
Hello everyone!

Nice to be accepted here and nice to read about this acronym I always wondered when / by who / how was created.
This is just one point in Internet history and is very spread :) between the users of internet.
Brad, you had a good idea!

See you soon all and without masks!


Thank you qola!

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Today I was looking into the history of CFNM and trying to find out what happened before it became mainly about BDSM (ie domination/submission, humiliation).

The pages on the website talk about not all events having erections, and masturbating sometimes happening when there are erections (or to get one).

What isn't mentioned (that I could find) is whether or not the men ejaculated. Perhaps the mentions of men masturbating meant that they did this until orgasm?

I'm wondering how common it would have been to have events where the men were hard, and there was some playing with the erections (either by the man to himself or by a women), but this was all done without the man ejaculating.

PS - I used to be a member of this website but had not logged in for a few years. Today login failed, but I could register using my old username. So here I am back again.


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Today I was looking into the history of CFNM and trying to find out what happened before it became mainly about BDSM (ie domination/submission, humiliation).

The pages on the website talk about not all events having erections, and masturbating sometimes happening when there are erections (or to get one).

What isn't mentioned (that I could find) is whether or not the men ejaculated. Perhaps the mentions of men masturbating meant that they did this until orgasm?

I'm wondering how common it would have been to have events where the men were hard, and there was some playing with the erections (either by the man to himself or by a women), but this was all done without the man ejaculating.

PS - I used to be a member of this website but had not logged in for a few years. Today login failed, but I could register using my old username. So here I am back again.


The reason CFNM (or more appropriately, CFnm) has become so associated with domination/submission is that it was a natural fit to what those into it had been doing. There's also a *huge* BDSM community, so they had the numbers to take it there in a big way. If you Google "CFNM" with adult content filters turned off you see that porn producers have also hi-jacked the term to where it's mostly about clothed or partially clothed women giving a guy a handjob, blowjob and/or having garden-variety porn sex with him.

But neither of these scenarios were what I envisioned when I created the acronym. I created of the predecessor forum to this one, Visual Sensations for Women, to educate people of an alternative to the two above -- that is, it was about "visual sensations" for *women* wherein women could enjoy their suppressed voyeuristic desires openly and unabashed with a group of other like-minded women in a situation where there was no pressure for reciprocity not any sex. To that end, there are indeed many, many women that would willing attend a non-BDSM CFNM party. But that *always* requires a group of motivated people willing to put in the effort. Most of the guys that would be into that kind of thing want others to do the work such that they can just show up and flash their cocks at ladies. Those guys are constantly posting on forums ignorantly thinking that they're a unique snowflake and that others are just sitting around waiting for some guy to show his dick (these guys are also the ones that are big into sending unsolicited dick pics too stupid to know that women don't want them).

And that's why the original concept of CFNM hasn't flourished as much as the BDSM type or porn industry themes.

As it pertains to your question about guys masturbating at CFNM events....the ones I've been to as well as the many BDSM types promoted on forums such as Fetlife vary considerably without little consistency. Although the vast majority do accept the nude guys getting uncontrolled erections (and the ladies often like that), masturbation activities are for a subset of such parties that involve play activities. Often times guys masturbating is necessary for such games as ring toss, but having the guys do it to ejaculation is too sexual for the tastes of a lot of women - a lot, but not all. In fact, I'd say that having the guys masturbate to ejaculation as part of planned activities only happens at a minority of parties.

In my own experience, there are some women that come to CFNM parties not only wanting to watch the men masturbate, but feel it is on obligated right to watch it. Those women want to see the guy ejaculate with many also so enjoy his embarrassment in doing it in front of crowd that the laugh and draw everyone's attention to his cock at the point in time he starts ejaculating. I know this because I've personally experienced that exact scenario.

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Thanks for your long reply Brad.

I also lament the fact that looking at the internet now shows that "CFNM" is almost always a male fantasy which is about humiliation (and of course the man receives sexual pleasures and is 'made to' ejaculate).

I wish your original intent was more published as I have also found that many (non-kinky) women love CFNM.

When I was dating I often enjoyed CFNM on even a first date. In my profile I talked about enjoying intimacy and that giving a foot massage was a great way to start. Then in real-life I told my dates that I never ejaculate when with a date and that I leave what happens totally up to her.

So when a date came back to my place it was usual to give her a foot massage. During the foot massage I would tell them that a great way to feel that the control I had given them was very real is to do something a bit unusual, such as having one person partly or fully undress. So many foot massages ended up with me naked at their feet giving them a foot massage.

When this is all done without dominance, submission, and humiliation, and my date knows that I enjoy it and that things can very easily go no further, it was perhaps even easier to enjoy my CFNM than it would have been to have a proper kiss with my date.

As you say so often, what happens has to be female centric, and then women love it!

And on another subject .... At the moment I don't have permission to post in the CFNM film topics, so I though you should know that the (non) CFNM file is now on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrZCdTT ... =romanliru

Last night I watched the first half with my partner. As noted by others, "CFNM" is talked about very briefly, without even defining the term. My partner and I both loved the early PlayGirl photos, but the bulk of the film we watched so far was, um, not impressive.


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I found that YouTube video very informative and interesting. I did not know women felt that way.


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This was an excellent introduction to the history of the term. It's interesting how the internet has creates so many concepts.


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Emily_R wrote:
This was an excellent introduction to the history of the term. It's interesting how the internet has creates so many concepts.


Glad you found it enlightening!

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Agreed with much of the above, i especially appreciate Brad's strong lean into women's interest and desires. I recall when I was about 14 a female classmate studying the bulge of a male classmate, who was unaware of the attention. She had the look of amusement on her face. That was a stunning revelation to me, I had up till thatoint assumed women were not stimulated in the same manner as men.


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Good to read the history of this. I had completely forgotten about VSFW which gave me plenty of fantasy material back in the early days!


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Very interesting, I've been a fan for 20 years but never thought of the origins.


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Brad wrote:
The following link is a webpage of CFNMVillage.com. It describes the origins of the term "CFNM", and how it evolved to this forum:

The Origins of "CFNM"


I like your style of writing. This is actually very interesting story of creation of this forum and I am glad to know it. A lot of people here enjoy it so you made a good thing, really


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Brad wrote:
The following link is a webpage of CFNMVillage.com. It describes the origins of the term "CFNM", and how it evolved to this forum:

The Origins of "CFNM"


I like your style of writing. This is actually very interesting story of creation of this forum and I am glad to know it. A lot of people here enjoy it so you made a good thing, really


Thank you for that. It's folks like you that gave me the inspiration.

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Great writing.i LIKE THAT.STYLE IS GREAT AND INSPIRATION.


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I’m amazed at how popular CFNM has become. Would love to see it develop in to dedicated beaches, campsites etc that are all CFNM only.


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Alas, I wasn't keeping an archive of the beginning material. I met Brad while perusing Byron's Stripping Naked site. Was it really 20 years ago? Shit! He was one of the few who posted any content resembling CFNM and was cool enough to let this gay guy ask him questions. For those of you old enough to remember, this was when Deja News was in its glory days. I would scour the Internet looking for CFNM content. It sure would have been easier if 'CFNM' was in use as a keyword!

Here is a sample from 16 years ago. As you can imagine, Virginia's post caused quite a 'sensation'.

It was posted to: Visual Sensations for Women (VSFW) following an earlier period of site instability.

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Subject: Watching Boys Swim Nude at YMCA

From: Virginia

Several have asked me to repost the experiences I shared with this forum before the crash that lost all the prior postings. I did not keep a copy of what I wrote before so I am having to rewrite it all over again.

I am a woman in my mid-fifties. Back in 1964 when I was 19 I worked as a receptionist at a YMCA. One day I went upstairs to get something from a supply room. When I moved some boxes I discovered a window that overlooked the swimming pool. When I looked out I saw a group of men and boys swimming nude. I am not sure what prompted me to do it, but I flipped off the light, rearranged some boxes so that I could get a better view of the pool area, and stood there and watched them swim nude for quite some time.

After that day, a trip to the supply room was a regular event. I became voyeuristically enthralled at watching these nude males, seeing their penises flipping back and forth. I found it exhilarating to stand in the darkness of that supply room and watch these naked men and boys without them having any knowledge whatsoever that they were being watched by a woman. It was a turn on and gave me a sense of power that is difficult to describe.

Several days a week during the summer, the YMCA offered swimming lessons to boys. The YMCA's swimming instructors were women. There were three of them during the year and a half that I worked there. They wore one piece swim suits and the boys they taught were always nude. Most of the boys were between 8-15 years of age. I watched many of these private swimming classes from my secret viewpoint.

I never mentioned this to anyone, not even to my husband who I lost several years ago after being married for nearly 30 years. I first decided to share this with this forum because I saw a poster try to discount another poster's message about how boys used to swim nude at high schools and YMCAs. I knew it was true, had witnessed it myself, and decided to share what I had kept to myself all these years.

It was the custom of boys to swim nude back then and everyone accepted it as the norm. It was also thought that the modesty of males was not important as it was for girls. It wasn't considered unusual at all for the YMCA to use female instructors. It also wasn't considered unusual for the boys to be nude during their swimming lessons. The fact was that the wearing of swim suits by the males at the YMCA was not allowed. The female instructors were the only ones that wore swim suits ever. Again, that was based upon the culture of the time that women's modesty was protected and mens and boys simply weren't.




Wow thanks for sharing Virginia's post @Scooter. I really appreciate that she said what a sense of power it gave her. I love the thought that no matter what this women may look like, or how old she is, or her social status, through cfnm she can suddenly have all power within a situation, and even the most privileged guy may be stripped of all power and humbled by her gaze.


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