Devotional Sex wrote:
Today I was looking into the history of CFNM and trying to find out what happened before it became mainly about BDSM (ie domination/submission, humiliation).
The pages on the website talk about not all events having erections, and masturbating sometimes happening when there are erections (or to get one).
What isn't mentioned (that I could find) is whether or not the men ejaculated. Perhaps the mentions of men masturbating meant that they did this until orgasm?
I'm wondering how common it would have been to have events where the men were hard, and there was some playing with the erections (either by the man to himself or by a women), but this was all done without the man ejaculating.
PS - I used to be a member of this website but had not logged in for a few years. Today login failed, but I could register using my old username. So here I am back again.
The reason CFNM (or more appropriately, CFnm) has become so associated with domination/submission is that it was a natural fit to what those into it had been doing. There's also a *huge* BDSM community, so they had the numbers to take it there in a big way. If you Google "CFNM" with adult content filters turned off you see that porn producers have also hi-jacked the term to where it's mostly about clothed or partially clothed women giving a guy a handjob, blowjob and/or having garden-variety porn sex with him.
But neither of these scenarios were what I envisioned when I created the acronym. I created of the predecessor forum to this one, Visual Sensations for Women, to educate people of an alternative to the two above -- that is, it was about "visual sensations" for *women* wherein women could enjoy their suppressed voyeuristic desires openly and unabashed with a group of other like-minded women in a situation where there was no pressure for reciprocity not any sex. To that end, there are indeed many, many women that would willing attend a non-BDSM CFNM party. But that *always* requires a group of motivated people willing to put in the effort. Most of the guys that would be into that kind of thing want others to do the work such that they can just show up and flash their cocks at ladies. Those guys are constantly posting on forums ignorantly thinking that they're a unique snowflake and that others are just sitting around waiting for some guy to show his dick (these guys are also the ones that are big into sending unsolicited dick pics too stupid to know that women don't want them).
And that's why the original concept of CFNM hasn't flourished as much as the BDSM type or porn industry themes.
As it pertains to your question about guys masturbating at CFNM events....the ones I've been to as well as the many BDSM types promoted on forums such as Fetlife vary considerably without little consistency. Although the vast majority do accept the nude guys getting uncontrolled erections (and the ladies often like that), masturbation activities are for a subset of such parties that involve play activities. Often times guys masturbating is necessary for such games as ring toss, but having the guys do it to ejaculation is too sexual for the tastes of a lot of women - a lot, but not all. In fact, I'd say that having the guys masturbate to ejaculation as part of planned activities only happens at a minority of parties.
In my own experience, there are some women that come to CFNM parties not only wanting to watch the men masturbate, but feel it is on obligated right to watch it. Those women want to see the guy ejaculate with many also so enjoy his embarrassment in doing it in front of crowd that the laugh and draw everyone's attention to his cock at the point in time he starts ejaculating. I know this because I've personally experienced that exact scenario.
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