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Author:  blaze3264 [ Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:14 am ]
Post subject:  Platonic and Casual

I'm a big fan when CFNM is more platonic and the sexual tension is less apparent. Something casual that is seemingly innocent.

I never liked to associate CFNM with femdom or embarrassment. If anything I think of CFNM as somewhat of an alpha-male situation. A man with the highest of confidence and lack of care to be able to go naked without any consequences to me is a very attractive feature.

Author:  steve-o [ Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Platonic and Casual

Hey blaze3264,
I totally agree. I have had several of those and they turned out to be amazing fun over time. All but one were girls from my cycling team. Our cycling kits are skintight and the Polyester/Lycra fabric becomes even more see-through when sweaty and wet, depending on the color.

And many times when we ride with the girls we get changed, shower and pee in front of eachother; so it lends itself to very liberal openness and we become friends as we're cycling hard up mountains and long 100-mile rides with a lot of trash talk but also us stronger male riders dropping back and helping / drafting for the female riders.

I promise to write more details, specifically about one or two of my platonic female cycling buddies when I have more time.

Author:  naughtygal33 [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Platonic and Casual

steve-o wrote:
Hey blaze3264,
I totally agree. I have had several of those and they turned out to be amazing fun over time. All but one were girls from my cycling team. Our cycling kits are skintight and the Polyester/Lycra fabric becomes even more see-through when sweaty and wet, depending on the color.

And many times when we ride with the girls we get changed, shower and pee in front of eachother; so it lends itself to very liberal openness and we become friends as we're cycling hard up mountains and long 100-mile rides with a lot of trash talk but also us stronger male riders dropping back and helping / drafting for the female riders.

I promise to write more details, specifically about one or two of my platonic female cycling buddies when I have more time.
What you are talking about sounds like NFNM or naturist activities surely?

Author:  steve-o [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Platonic and Casual

Sorry for the confusion. I was only trying to explain how we all became platonic friends and used to seeing each other in different types of situations, as context before writing more when I have time.

Author:  semchan3 [ Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Platonic and Casual

One person naked (male??) and another clothed (female). that is by definition a power relationship.
Two persons naked describes nudism.

Author:  doug444 [ Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Platonic and Casual

semchan3 wrote:
One person naked (male??) and another clothed (female). that is by definition a power relationship.


When I am naked with clothed females in a consensual situation, it is exactly where I want to be. I feel empowered.

I find it even better when the female(s) involved feel empowered too.

Author:  Atl2347 [ Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Platonic and Casual

doug444 wrote:
semchan3 wrote:
One person naked (male??) and another clothed (female). that is by definition a power relationship.


When I am naked with clothed females in a consensual situation, it is exactly where I want to be. I feel empowered.

I find it even better when the female(s) involved feel empowered too.


I agree. Clothed doesn't always have to indicate power. I think most consentual cfnm situations are about being equal and free.

Author:  Brad [ Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Platonic and Casual

I've pondered this scenario for years. The challenge I've always had is that people have differing definition of the word "platonic". And whenever someone says "Well, to me the word means...yadda yadda", that only confuses the situation because individuals are wrongfully using words if they solely rely upon their own perception as to the meaning of that word.

If one reads the various definitions, the term "platonic" , which is derived by teachings of Plato (although he never used that term) is not related to the word "casual" in any manner. They have entirely different meanings.

If one ascribes to the truest meaning of "platonic love", then there also is a dissociation of those feeling with the other's gender, ergo, platonic should not be associated with "CFNM" as the latter establishes a gender relationship. As it is defined, in platonic love carnal desires of the body are replaced with the "truest" form of love, and that is love of the soul. So effectively, the term "platonic" is more closely aligned with the term "spiritual" as opposed to "casual".

Merriam-Webster's Definition of Platonic

But like any word, over time people begin to use it in contexts of which the creator never envisioned, and the masses then redefine that term. I've seen this happen to "CFNM" as each person that finds interest in it also attempt to redefine it to what they want it to be absent any reference to etymology or how and why it was created.

So we now see the term "platonic" applied to relationships that are void of romance and sex, generally meaning that if a guy has a platonic relationship with a female it can be described best as "just friends" or "the friend zone". And that's okay. My only concern about usage of words is when two people have differing ideas about what it means, yet each doesn't realize the other is talking about something different.

When I coined the term "CFNM", it was never meant to be a subset BDSM, although I would say enjoyment of "humiliation" is a subset of BDSM. But those into BDSM and humiliation will argue vehemently that CFNM is indeed a subset of BDSM. The truth is the reverse...BDSM is just one manner of enjoyment of CFNM because of the power exchange dynamic. But there are others as noted above.

But because of the constant confusion brought on by so many wanting to own the definition of things, I created this web page to set it all straight, as I'm the only one that has a right to claim a greater understanding of the term "CFNM" as I created it:

Defining CFNM

Author:  Soprano45 [ Fri May 14, 2021 2:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Platonic and Casual

True, OP.

Best CFNM is when the women is either amused or slightly flustered, but not dominating

Author:  Parker [ Sun May 16, 2021 8:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Platonic and Casual

I understand as the coolest CFNM that one that is not clearly leading to sex. Or at least, you dont know for sure.
I dont mean that is not exciting. Anything is exciting if you know it will end in a good sex session. But the real way i think in CFNM is that one where maybe is nothing more coming besides the fact of me being exposed to some girl/s. Maybe with a friend you know is not going to be anything else. Maybe with unknown people. Anyway, in any situation, the best thing is to let it flow, and see what happens.

What im not really into at all is in the humiliation stuff. Dont see it like being an alpha male or something like that, but surely CFNM is something i will do for my pleasure as well as the girl will do it for hers. I'd never force someone to see me naked if I don't really know if she wants to (except for the accidental cases) and, in the same way, the situation will never be forced to go to a place i dont want to. I totally respect guys who like to be humiliated, forced and laughed at. But not my cup of tea.

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